130427 NPA, Franklin Hu - Is Gravity Just a Bad Case of Static Cling.txt DonEM to Everyone: audio ok here Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: came back Michael Anteski to Everyone: Resonances between etheric nodes of vibration Bill Howell4 to Everyone: I hear you Franklin Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: good now Bill Howell4 to Everyone: now I don't Franklin Hu to Everyone: can you hear me Ted Erikson to Everyone: Other talk seems to disrupt Hu Daniel Jencka to Everyone: No hear. Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: lost again DonEM to Everyone: audio gone Franklin !!!!!!! Ted Erikson to Everyone: Fine now Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: audio good now Robert Kemp to Everyone: Franklin: It sounds like you are on to a new ideas for loosing weight. Lie down in an electric field, and turn on a pulse generator? Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Hu, Interesting idea Ted Erikson to Everyone: Surface to volume ratio approaches infinity as size approaches zero!! Daniel Jencka to Everyone: I thought electrostatic attraction is strictly a surface phenomemon. Ted Erikson to Everyone: Infinity and zero implies something ignored in physics. Ted Erikson to Everyone: Infinity and zero ignored in physics (evaded) Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Daniel, Hu is implying nuslear interaction Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: nuclear Peter Sujak to Everyone: Ted, zero do not exist Our PAL Asija to Everyone: Ted! Who iss doing the ignoring? Ted Erikson to Everyone: electrons are pretty smal;l, and photons smaller. Robert Kemp to Everyone: most photons are much bigger in spatial size than electrons. Ted Erikson to Everyone: Who measures or even predicts where they are Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: TED, photons are not particles Peter Sujak to Everyone: yes robert Robert Kemp to Everyone: Ted; Your radio! Ted Erikson to Everyone: Photons occupy space Our PAL Asija to Everyone: 7.9 = 9.8 ? Robert Kemp to Everyone: Ted: When you turn on your radio, you filter the photon frequencies! Our PAL Asija to Everyone: 1.9 = 0 ? Ted Erikson to Everyone: Ah yes, filter waves or particles Robert Kemp to Everyone: Franlkin: Do you mean 9.8 m/s^2? Bill Howell4 to Everyone: Pal- its the same order of magnitude Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Hu, you are trying to weigh water in a container underneath the surface of a lake/ocean. Robert Kemp to Everyone: Ted; it does not matter particles or waves, we measure, detect, and filter. Robert Kemp to Everyone: And those photons are much larger in spatial size than electrons. Peter Sujak to Everyone: Franklin, it not wright the gravity is the same amount as elektrtostatic Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Peter, Hu is correct Peter Sujak to Everyone: The electroststic force you are measuring in absolutely diferent geometricall condition then gravity Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Hu good point Peter Sujak to Everyone: two 1kg mass 1m is absolutely another geometry then elctrostatic force measuring by 1 C Michael Anteski to Everyone: The electric component is gravity is blunted inertially by distance factors but etherically it's attractive by resonation of nodesof vibration Peter Sujak to Everyone: foce 1C in 1m is always contact force Daniel Jencka to Everyone: How would this relate to creating an anti-gravity effect? DonEM to Everyone: Franklin: or believe it enough to invest in the test equipment yourself. Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Franklin, I had similar thoughts Robert Kemp to Everyone: Franklin: If what you are saying is true, then we should see and measure certain celestial objects to be either positively or negatively charged? Daniel Jencka to Everyone: Robert, that is definitely electric universe theory. Ted Erikson to Everyone: Electrons imply charge AND light….in resonance @ gamma frequencies? Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Robert, he just said that it is not electrostatic Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Who belched? Bill Howell4 to Everyone: galaxies appear to form in strings (e.g. the Wall) Robert Kemp to Everyone: That was very funny! Galaxies are moving away from each other, because they are repellng. That is a very cute idea! Michael Anteski to Everyone: milky way named after galactose? Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Robert, if gravity is a minor force then Hu's idea works well for galaxies Bill Howell4 to Everyone: I thought it was named after the candy bar! :-) Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Michael, Bill, tisk tisk tisk Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Hu, interesting! Daniel Jencka to Everyone: But then couldn't million volts feeding a faraday cage from a capacitor create a very short term reduction in gravitational effect? Our PAL Asija to Everyone: Hu is always interesting and enthusiatic. Ted Erikson to Everyone: Hu is a free thinker!! Robert Kemp to Everyone: Hu:Science question why do spinning soap bubbles rise or fall? See Aerodynamics! Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Hu is not single minded = free-thinker Robert Kemp to Everyone: Your second bullet, states tht spinning balls fly farther, and drop slower? DonEM to Everyone: Robert -- bubbles spin on verticle axis also rise or fall differently? Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Robert, aerodynamics explains it but that may not be the true or complete explanation. Keep an open mind Lou LaFollette to Everyone: I like the fact that in the spirit of Occam's Razor he manipulates existing concepts rather than inventing new ones. For example, GR is mathematically predicitive but has to invent a new concept of space time which is nothing more than a fudge factor. It is matter and energy, not time and space that are causative actors. Robert Kemp to Everyone: This is the Lens Thirring effect. I am not spelling his name correctly. Robert Kemp to Everyone: Or Frame Dragging effect. Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Lou, right Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Robert, spinning dimpled golf ball is explained in aerodynamics Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: not just soap bubbles Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Franklin, had same idea Robert Kemp to Everyone: Bullet #2 was verified by Charles Coloumb. Bullet #2 was verified by Lord Cavendish (F ~ 1/r^2). Daniel Jencka to Everyone: Hu, take a look at NASA anomalous trajectories: http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/2013/04/23/anomalous-trajectories/ Robert Kemp to Everyone: These are two and three hundred year old theories. Why should we repoduce things that we have already verified in the collection of Human Knowledge. Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: One of the first rockets to orbit went significantly higher than predicted!!! Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Hu, I'll send you a link Bill Howell4 to Everyone: QUESTION: Franklin- My audio connection is bad. Great presentation btw.Re: your discussion about a spinning ball behaves differently than a non-spinning ball, perhaps motion is a component to understanding gravity. I had an idea and would like your take on it. Electromagnetic induction occurs when a magnet is moved thru a surrounding coil of wire. The image I have of what’s going on is that the magnetic field emanates outward. It’s the motion of the magnet that generates the emanating magnetic field, and this field dies when motion stops. What if gravity is similar in an inverse way, such that the motion of matter generates a gravitational field that emanates inward (instead of outward). If so, then gravity is simply what occurs when matter moves thru space (or perhaps when matter moves thru the aether medium). What do you (or others) think of such a concept? Jaythree to Everyone: So how would gravitational and electrostatic forces relate to the nuclear strong force, which is greater than both? Bill Howell4 to Everyone: good point re: Cavendish, however, the earth is moving thru space Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: Bill, interesting on both counts Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: true, its still open Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: video lag. Leader pls cut ur video DonEM to Everyone: i.e., gravity tidal effect causes charge striation in clouds Robert Kemp to Everyone: That same question applies to why electrons join to protons and form hydorgen! Milan Kroupa, USA to Everyone: both ways I hear Robert Kemp to Everyone: What is one is positive and the other is negative charged; the earth and moon? Robert Kemp to Everyone: What if?