111126 Boskovich - Unified theory.txt David de Hilster to Everyone: Everyone is currently muted. I fyou want to speak, please raise a flag. Thanks. Ivor Catt to Everyone: 2 minutes after start of meeting. Using Skype, the "call" did not appear, so IK could not enter my "room nujmber" I see pictures, but hearnothing. Ivor Catt to Everyone: Ivor Catt Our PAL Asija to Everyone: Books and Bar . Care to guess which venue was more popular David de Hilster to Everyone: Ivor, did you click on the "mic" icon on the left side? Ivor Catt to Everyone: I have now clicked on a mic icon half way down the lhs, and still hear nothing. Lou LaFollette to Everyone: Ivor - I click on "Join video conference" on the right and that gets me sound. You then have to go through a number of screens and select Voip or skype. Ivor Catt to Everyone: The timer oin the right keeps going, "initialising video conference .... " It goes onand on, and I hear nothing. The key problem is I keep being told to enter my room no., bujt am not given the place to eneter it. Ivor Catt to Everyone: In the rhs it continues to say "Installing video conference, please wait" I keep waiting and hear nothing. Lou LaFollette to Everyone: Leave and reenter and immediately select "join video conference." It does take a period of time and then you are told it will open in another window, robert kemp to Everyone: How do you measure a point particle? Sankar Hajra to Everyone: The same is the case for me robert kemp to Everyone: Is there a difference between a geometric location point, and a point of matter? Prof Kiehn to Everyone: The eigen vectors of antisymetric matrices have a zero norm (points), but the product of different eigenvectors is not zero. These concepts are called Spinors in the division algebras 2, 4 and 8. Mitchell to Everyone: David, Hi, no D mitchell Mitchell to Everyone: is the 'not zero' the reason for 'non-reversible', Dr. Keihn? robert kemp to Everyone: What are point particles made of? Prof Kiehn to Everyone: Yes in the divison algebra 4, where the spinors are quaternions Ian Cowan2 to Everyone: Volta, not Voltaire Mitchell to Everyone: Thanks, Dr. robert kemp to Everyone: Does Boscovich have a wiki page? David de Hilster to Everyone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruder_Boskovic#Legacy robert kemp to Everyone: David; Thanks David de Hilster to Everyone: Nikola Tesla said, "...the relativity theory, by the way, is much older than its present proponents. It was advanced over 200 years ago by my illustrious countryman Ruder Boškovic, the great philosopher, who, not withstanding other and multifold obligations, wrote a thousand volumes of excellent literature on a vast variety of subjects. Boškovic dealt with relativity, including the so-called time-space continuum ..." robert kemp to Everyone: This sounds more like Robert Hooke's elastic force theory to me! Lou LaFollette to Everyone: Jaro Kopernicky's lecture on attraction/repulsion of magnetism looks like he may have been aware of Boscovich. Especially since he grew up in Brataslava. Mitchell to Everyone: Layman sees a space-resonance that's point-centered, with these curves defining the resonant and/or transitional states robert kemp to Everyone: Mitchell: The resonant transitions of hydrogen are laymen gravity with pressure surrounded by ground states and rotations. :) Mitchell to Everyone: I.e. matter-wave force, per se? coherent near field? robert kemp to Everyone: Mitchell: force-wave matter is a coherent near field near point particles in their transitions... :) robert kemp to Everyone: Boscovich, invented the UNIVERSE!! Lou LaFollette to Everyone: I wonder if the reason Boscovich is neglected is because he is a priest. 18the century scientists did not feel they had to give him credit and modern day scientists don' like to acknowledge that a man of committed faith can be a man of science . robert kemp to Everyone: Newton, was a man of faith, Kepler was a man of faith, Galileo was a man of faith... robert kemp to Everyone: Mitchell: let it stay in the frig for a little while longer! Lou LaFollette to Everyone: I recognize that Newton, Kepler and Galileo were men of faith, but they were not priests. robert kemp to Everyone: Newton refused to be ordained a priest. But wrote more books on religion than most priests. His writings are currently in the museum of Jeruselum David de Hilster to Everyone: Bode's Law Lou LaFollette to Everyone: The difference between Newton and Boscovich is their institutional connections. David de Hilster to Everyone: Robert, Faraday, Maxwell, Kelvin, and countless other 19th C scientists were men of faith also. robert kemp to Everyone: David: I agree, I don't think that God just let's anybody get a grasp on His universe! Mitchell to Everyone: Newton accepted light-corpuscle-instantaneity, per Znidarsic, which makes resonance with a quantum transition into tempo-spatial arrays sort of hard to envision (resonance with instantaneous-hard nut) robert kemp to Everyone: You have to be chosen! robert kemp to Everyone: Mitchell: unfortunately resonance is temporal! Mitchell to Everyone: right, so newton couldn't track temporal concepts on atom-resonance , therefore, blind to Boschvician concepts george james ducas to Everyone: its a resonance theory of the ether, and what attwcts or repulses depends on resonant curves. what is missin is the function, where time and velicity make up all things and properties being products of time and velocity Mitchell to Everyone: That missing part isn't in Newton's closet, either. robert kemp to Everyone: Mitchell: It is time for Boscovich, to come out of the closet; if you know what I mean ...:) Lou LaFollette to Everyone: We use the hierarchy of matter. Nice to have a place to credit the idea. george james ducas to Everyone: because there is hierarchy, there is a first cause Lou LaFollette to Everyone: It is hard to avoid that conclusion. Lou LaFollette to Everyone: Einstein sent physics on a false path 100 years. Hopefully, soon, we will get back on track. Mitchell to Everyone: Slag off --love it Jack Kuykendall to Everyone: in my lecture on January 14th, I will show Einstein's actual math errors Lou LaFollette to Everyone: Brits have the greatest slang. Jack Kuykendall to Everyone: They are trying to combine relativity and QM. They are both incorrect Prof Kiehn to Everyone: UNSW means by Myron Evans?? Prof Kiehn to Everyone: without medium there is no sound Ivor Catt to Everyone: The timer oin the right keeps going, "initialising video conference .... " It goes onand on, and I hear nothing. The key problem is I keep being told to enter my room no., bujt am not given the place to eneter it. Ivor Catt to Everyone: In the rhs it continues to say "Installing video conference, please wait" I keep waiting and hear nothing. Lou LaFollette to Everyone: Leave and reenter and immediately select "join video conference." It does take a period of time and then you are told it will open in another window, robert kemp to Everyone: How do you measure a point particle? Sankar Hajra to Everyone: The same is the case for me robert kemp to Everyone: Is there a difference between a geometric location point, and a point of matter? Prof Kiehn to Everyone: The eigen vectors of antisymetric matrices have a zero norm (points), but the product of different eigenvectors is not zero. These concepts are called Spinors in the division algebras 2, 4 and 8. Mitchell to Everyone: David, Hi, no D mitchell Mitchell to Everyone: is the 'not zero' the reason for 'non-reversible', Dr. Keihn? robert kemp to Everyone: What are point particles made of? Prof Kiehn to Everyone: Yes in the divison algebra 4, where the spinors are quaternions Ian Cowan2 to Everyone: Volta, not Voltaire Mitchell to Everyone: Thanks, Dr. robert kemp to Everyone: Does Boscovich have a wiki page? David de Hilster to Everyone: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruder_Boskovic#Legacy robert kemp to Everyone: David; Thanks David de Hilster to Everyone: Nikola Tesla said, "...the relativity theory, by the way, is much older than its present proponents. It was advanced over 200 years ago by my illustrious countryman Ruder Boškovic, the great philosopher, who, not withstanding other and multifold obligations, wrote a thousand volumes of excellent literature on a vast variety of subjects. Boškovic dealt with relativity, including the so-called time-space continuum ..." robert kemp to Everyone: This sounds more like Robert Hooke's elastic force theory to me! Lou LaFollette to Everyone: Jaro Kopernicky's lecture on attraction/repulsion of magnetism looks like he may have been aware of Boscovich. Especially since he grew up in Brataslava. Mitchell to Everyone: Layman sees a space-resonance that's point-centered, with these curves defining the resonant and/or transitional states robert kemp to Everyone: Mitchell: The resonant transitions of hydrogen are laymen gravity with pressure surrounded by ground states and rotations. :) Mitchell to Everyone: I.e. matter-wave force, per se? coherent near field? robert kemp to Everyone: Mitchell: force-wave matter is a coherent near field near point particles in their transitions... :) robert kemp to Everyone: Boscovich, invented the UNIVERSE!! Lou LaFollette to Everyone: I wonder if the reason Boscovich is neglected is because he is a priest. 18the century scientists did not feel they had to give him credit and modern day scientists don' like to acknowledge that a man of committed faith can be a man of science . robert kemp to Everyone: Newton, was a man of faith, Kepler was a man of faith, Galileo was a man of faith... robert kemp to Everyone: Mitchell: let it stay in the frig for a little while longer! Lou LaFollette to Everyone: I recognize that Newton, Kepler and Galileo were men of faith, but they were not priests. robert kemp to Everyone: Newton refused to be ordained a priest. But wrote more books on religion than most priests. His writings are currently in the museum of Jeruselum David de Hilster to Everyone: Bode's Law Lou LaFollette to Everyone: The difference between Newton and Boscovich is their institutional connections. David de Hilster to Everyone: Robert, Faraday, Maxwell, Kelvin, and countless other 19th C scientists were men of faith also. robert kemp to Everyone: David: I agree, I don't think that God just let's anybody get a grasp on His universe! Mitchell to Everyone: Newton accepted light-corpuscle-instantaneity, per Znidarsic, which makes resonance with a quantum transition into tempo-spatial arrays sort of hard to envision (resonance with instantaneous-hard nut) robert kemp to Everyone: You have to be chosen! robert kemp to Everyone: Mitchell: unfortunately resonance is temporal! Mitchell to Everyone: right, so newton couldn't track temporal concepts on atom-resonance , therefore, blind to Boschvician concepts george james ducas to Everyone: its a resonance theory of the ether, and what attwcts or repulses depends on resonant curves. what is missin is the function, where time and velicity make up all things and properties being products of time and velocity Mitchell to Everyone: That missing part isn't in Newton's closet, either. robert kemp to Everyone: Mitchell: It is time for Boscovich, to come out of the closet; if you know what I mean ...:) Lou LaFollette to Everyone: We use the hierarchy of matter. Nice to have a place to credit the idea. george james ducas to Everyone: because there is hierarchy, there is a first cause Lou LaFollette to Everyone: It is hard to avoid that conclusion. Lou LaFollette to Everyone: Einstein sent physics on a false path 100 years. Hopefully, soon, we will get back on track. Mitchell to Everyone: Slag off --love it Jack Kuykendall to Everyone: in my lecture on January 14th, I will show Einstein's actual math errors Lou LaFollette to Everyone: Brits have the greatest slang. Jack Kuykendall to Everyone: They are trying to combine relativity and QM. They are both incorrect Prof Kiehn to Everyone: UNSW means by Myron Evans?? Prof Kiehn to Everyone: without medium there is no sound David de Hilster to Everyone: You shouldn't treat light like arrows or like sounds. David de Hilster to Everyone: UNSW means University of New South Wales. Mitchell to Everyone: SOL = speed of light robert kemp to Everyone: What it forces you to do is to consider that when considering motion through any isotropic medium, the physics requires a modification to the additon of velocities formula. Ken Seto to Everyone: The speed of light is isotropic and it has a constant value by definition. Jack Kuykendall to Everyone: Einstein's relativity math only works in the current Bi-Lateral broken symmetry system. It does not work in a symmetry math system robert kemp to Everyone: Ken: Yes. robert kemp to Everyone: Ken: Yes. robert kemp to Everyone: Jack: Not true. That is why transformation mathematics was invented to show the lopsided symmetry. Jack Kuykendall to Everyone: Space is symmetrical. You cannot describe it correctly with a broken symmetry system David de Hilster to Everyone: That sounds logical, Mitchell to Everyone: Does temporal-viscosity model curved space? I.e., a space-resonance (wavicle) assumes some slow-light characteristicd, per BEC behavior garret to Everyone: special relativity makes sense if one has the proper mathematical background to understand it. Jack Kuykendall to Everyone: Einstein's definition of simultnaeous invalidates his theory Ken Seto to Everyone: The MMX shows that the speed of light is isotropic Jack Kuykendall to Everyone: The proper mathematical background has major faults garret to Everyone: I stand by my statement. Prof Kiehn to Everyone: metric based Hausdorff topology is symmetric. Kolmogorov T0 topology is not metrizable in a symmetric sense. Not T0 topologys are pseudo metrizable, but size is zero (a point). Mitchell to Everyone: Yet, light-speed is variant in gase and liquid and matter, what about in a black-hole's gravity well? Lou LaFollette to Everyone: Garret - It is general relativity which if objectionable. Special Relativity makes some sense. Is it possible that the speed of light is a boundary rather than a constant? Jack Kuykendall to Everyone: modern math is so steeped in the dash/cross codes that correct math has never been tried Mitchell to Everyone: Yes, how does a BEC's slow-light-speed factor into Boscovician thinking? garret to Everyone: Teach students more mathematics so that they can properly understand special relativity. Our PAL Asija to Everyone: I cant either Tom Lockyer to Everyone: Where is Greg? Lou LaFollette to Everyone: Great presentation, Roger. Thanks. Very informative. robert kemp to Everyone: Greg Volk: We can't hear you! Jack Kuykendall to Everyone: It is the math that is being taught that is the problem Roger Anderton to Everyone: I can't hear you Greg David de Hilster to Everyone: I'm working on it. Our PAL Asija to Everyone: But Greg's lips are moving just fine Tom Lockyer to Everyone: AKA Greg! garret to Everyone: Mistakes lies and lack of understanding of mathematics. Our PAL Asija to Everyone: May be greg is using wrong name Our PAL Asija to Everyone: YES noisy Prof Kiehn to Everyone: we hear you greg jerry hynecek to Everyone: unmute me Our PAL Asija to Everyone: 203-924-9538 robert kemp to Everyone: Yes: Greg check the phone numbers Mitchell to Everyone: Written Q, please: how does slow-light-speed in a BEC equate in Boscivician thinking? Lou LaFollette to Everyone: Were the papers at the Boscovich conference in Italian? garret to Everyone: Overshadowed by Einstein and 200 years of technological and theoretical advances. robert kemp to Everyone: In life and nature the creame always rises to the top. The dross falls to the bottom. The same is true for physics theories. Mitchell to Everyone: theory stratification may take centuries if commerce attaches to a strata jerry hynecek to Everyone: unmute skype robert kemp to Everyone: Jerry provide your phone number! obert kemp to Everyone: Einstein came to America at the age of 44. And was in the state for more than thirty (30) years. He knew english very well! Lou LaFollette to Everyone: It isn't time that changes. It is a change in energy transformation caused by an approach to a boundary condition. Mitchell to Everyone: Lou, not time, but the rate-of-duration-fulfillment varies closer. Lou LaFollette to Everyone: Mitchell - I agree Lou LaFollette to Everyone: Professor Kiehn - Agreed (humbly) that right and left differences and attraction and repulsion differences are what makes structure possible. Mitchell to Everyone: A porgressive group without a lay-vernacular is imprisoned by their own lingo Our PAL Asija to Everyone: Can hyou hjear me Lou LaFollette to Everyone: Quantization could be a first cause in the formation of matter from energy Our PAL Asija to Everyone: Can you unmute my phone line 203-924-9538 it may work no0w Thierry De Mees to Everyone: Particles = waves with closed paths Mitchell to Everyone: Kiehn's my cult hero :) Lou LaFollette to Everyone: Your points are very important and intersting, Dr. Kiehn Mitchell to Everyone: It is a classic vector boson, right? Mitchell to Everyone: a system of stored strain, with EM spiral ratchets Thierry De Mees to Everyone: Yes, Heaviside was. Paulina to Everyone: Dr. Raftopolous, I hope you are well. Will you be presenting any further work on NPA? PAL Asia Boskovich examples - greatness robbed enddoc