/home/bill/Documents_Toshiba/CNPS/150314 CNPS, Ricker - Open Debate on Mainstream Cosmology Objections and Alternatives.txt Panel Moderator : Harry Ricker ********************** Interesting comments ********************* Howell's comments I can't chat or talk... ****************** Chat record IC Ian Cowan 8:03 am There's no video? 8:03 am No OK now A Alex 8:22 am Hi all, This is Alex. Google "Alex Mayer" and you should see my website at or near the top of the page (physicist/cosmologist). I would like to talk about the slides that are currently available on my sight. FH Franklin Hu 8:27 am What the URL of your website? 8:29 am http://www.sensibleuniverse.net/pages/slides.html b baunes 8:40 am is there a video feed, bcause i see no vid? FH Franklin Hu 8:41 am There is video of participants. There is options on bottom to turn on participant video A Alex 8:42 am amayer@alum.mit.edu IC Ian Cowan 8:43 am cosine = projection on b baunes 8:44 am Hu: cant find it FH Franklin Hu 8:44 am We're getting an echo from John Wsol A Alex 8:44 am http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/1917MNRAS..78....3D 8:50 am There is a detailed history of BB section in the slides. Herman has the right idea but one could argue that Hubble was "on the fence" from the beginning, rather than one way or another. 8:50 am Sandage thought that expansion was not rational. FH Franklin Hu 8:53 am Alex's slide deck only has the first 21 slides of 390 slides which can be downloaded at:http://SensibleUniverse.net/SDSS/download.html JW John Wsol 8:53 am I'm excited about Alex Mayer input. As the universe expands (Planck-ticks/second continually slows. http://fqxi.org/community/forum/topic/2436 jh jerry hyencek 8:54 am Read my paper http://www.ccsenet.org/journal/index.php/apr/article/view/45188 JW John Wsol 8:55 am There are 3 reasons for redshift :: 3 Relativity Theories. A Alex 8:56 am Very interesting c. 1978 newspaper article that gives some insight into BB written by senior NASA scientist: www.sensibleuniverse.net/MCOAdebate/RJastrowNASA1978.pdf Dd David de Hilster 8:56 am We need everyone to submit their abstracts for the 2015 conference! A Alex 8:57 am http://www.sensibleuniverse.net/MCOAdebate/RJastrowNASA1978.pdf HH Herman Holushko 8:58 am I highly recommend the following book for reading: Hilton Ratcliffe, "The Virtue of Heresy: Confessions of a Dissident Astronomer" A Alex 8:58 am The BB theory is Creationist Religion, it is *not* "science". 9:03 am Any viable cosmological model MUST start with general relativity. Conventional GR is not perfect, but was the right approach. All I did was fix it a little based on the work of H. Minkowski CP Chris Phillips 9:08 am Fudge factor Dark Matter & Energy has taken over the media recently. Completely the opposite thinking to the Electric Universe where we start with what we can see- ie 99.999% plasma discharges. Two Cosmologies which to me represent negative and positive thinking. Expansion redshift has been denied by Arp's revelations about all the non-velocity related objects. A Alex 9:08 am The 'error' (i.e, oversight) in GR that led to the erroneous interpretation of the redshift MUST have locally-measurable consequences assuming sufficient resolution. Here is that, referenced in the slides; this is experimentally verifiable in the laboratory: https://archive.org/details/TGRGPS Dd David de Hilster 9:09 am My father using gravitons can explain the rotation of the galaxies as well without dark energy / matter. 9:11 am I do agree with Dr. Dowdye that light bending occurs through material in space either the corona or other "real" material. Since "space-time" is farsical, this is a real explanation. 9:11 am Red shift is a consequence of the way light works, not movement of objects. CP Chris Phillips 9:13 am CMWR has surely been shown to derive from the intergalactic, interstellar plasma em radiation - Nothing to do with BB sh*t! Dd David de Hilster 9:13 am Photons don't exist. 9:13 am People throw around "space-time", space, time without explaining that those things are. 9:15 am Big bang is a bust. But I believe the universe is infinite. How can there be a boundary? 9:19 am GPS Oh boy CP Chris Phillips 9:20 am Speed of Light was shown to vary in MM expt. But they didn't realise it was such a small, but consistent factor. Aether is fine and well. Dd David de Hilster 9:21 am Mr. Mayer is really behind the CNPS. 9:24 am Mr. Alex Mayer is here and is mainstream. Pretty amazing. Chris Phillips 9:27 am Screen is split 25:75% can't see all image! JW John Wsol2 9:32 am Where can I download th SDSS database from? Dd David de Hilster 9:33 am Impress upon you it is a done deal. 9:34 am Wow, this guy "is right" and he knows it. That is unsettling. 9:35 am Question: with deep space field view where older galaxies are showing up further away, how does this affect this data? 9:39 am Beyond a shadow of a doubt. 9:39 am what is volume of space mean? These are the things that bother me. 9:39 am He throws around "word" and their meaning much like the Tesla Tech people do. A lot to learn. 9:46 am That is interesting. HH Herman Holushko2 9:46 am Testing SDSS - two models satisfy the observations: concordance Lambda-CDM and static universe with tired-light redshift http://arxiv.org/abs/1312.0003 Martin Lopez-Corredoira, "Alcock-Paczynski cosmological test" David de Hilster 9:53 am Not true. 9:53 am Einstein was doing differential equations at 12. This guy is full of legends. 9:55 am yea! 9:57 am I told you all. 9:57 am The data he is presenting is interesting but his inability to have an open discussion. AF Alexander F. Mayer 10:00 am Ability in mathematics is "relative" (no pun intended) Einstein was NOT a Hilbert or Minkowski, not even close, let alone an Euler or Guass. David de Hilster 10:02 am WOW b baunes 10:02 am what a cry baby... enddoc